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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by dhemilencok » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:31 pm

meneer wrote: yang sekarang pake ZC utuh mil...utuh...






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kagak rela bener kyknya klo gw nanya k om baduy... dasar jubir, juragan bibir..upppsss :roll: :roll:
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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by meneer » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:34 pm

dhemilencok wrote: kagak rela bener kyknya klo gw nanya k om baduy... dasar jubir, juragan bibir..upppsss :roll: :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
adeindra wrote:wahahahahaha....dasar anak muda masih pada pacar2an...
udah tua....jadi berasa tua beneran nih gue
gara2 pacaran dari kampus ama die eh...langsung jadi istri, kaga ngerasain yang laen deh.... :(


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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by Nawee » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:18 am

saitama wrote:
yang bagus tuh pake head nya p08 boozzz coz tuh head punya mesin ZC SOHC yang terkenal kejaaamm :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
kalo pm3 tuh punya estilo, genio, ferio, city-z sebenernya sama dengan p08 tapi material n grade nya beda lebih tinggi n lebih kuat p08
Sedikit Ralat....

Bukan Hanya ZC VTEC (Civic Delsol) yg pake Head VTEC P08
JDM Estilo (Civic EG4) & Genio (Civic EG8) pake D15B VTEC Engine yg notabene pake head VTEC P08

JDM Ferio (EK3) pake Mesin D15B 3 Stage VTEC dgn kode Head VTEC P2J
Ferio Lokal pake Msn F16A dgn kode Head VTEC P2J
City Z pake Head VTEC dgn kode P2J

so kalo head VTEC dgn kode PM3 bukan bawaan Civic... :) :) :)

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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by meneer » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:36 am

Nawee wrote: Sedikit Ralat....

Bukan Hanya ZC VTEC (Civic Delsol) yg pake Head VTEC P08
JDM Estilo (Civic EG4) & Genio (Civic EG8) pake D15B VTEC Engine yg notabene pake head VTEC P08

JDM Ferio (EK3) pake Mesin D15B 3 Stage VTEC dgn kode Head VTEC P2J
Ferio Lokal pake Msn F16A dgn kode Head VTEC P2J
City Z pake Head VTEC dgn kode P2J

so kalo head VTEC dgn kode PM3 bukan bawaan Civic... :) :) :)
om iwan,menurut buku kamus sakti om wikipedia :

1. head PM3 :
Also known as D16Z2.
Found in:
1988-1991 Honda Civic Si, CRX Si, Civic Wagon RT4WD
1990-1991 Honda Civic EX Sedan
1988-1995 Honda Civic Shuttle RT4WD (UK/Europe/Asia/AU/NZ)
1989-1996 Rover 216/416 GSi (UK/Europe)
Displacement : 1590 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 90 mm
Compression : 9.1:1
Power : 115 hp (86 kW) @ 5600 rpm & 100 ft·lbf @ 3,800 rpm, redline 7200 rpm (USA)
Note: 1988 engines were 105 hp (78 kW), MY89-91 hp was increased to 108
Valvetrain : SOHC
Fuel Control : OBD-0 four-point PGM-FI
Head Code : PM3
Piston Code : PM6

2.head P08 :
D16Z6
Found in
1991-1992 Honda civic si
1992-1995 Honda Civic EX, EX-V and SI
1992-1995 Honda Civic ESi (European Market)
1993-1995 Honda Del Sol Si (only USDM)
1993-1995 Honda Del Sol ESi (European)
Displacement : 1590 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 90 mm
Compression : 9.2:1
Power : 125 hp (93 kW) @ 6600 rpm & 106 ft·lbf @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
Head Code : P08
ECU Code : P28

atw

D15B
VTEC
Found in:
1991-1999 Honda Civic VTi EG4 (Japanese Market)
1992-1998 Honda CRX VXi EG1 (Japanese Market)
Displacement : 1493 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
Rod Length : 137 mm
Compression : 9.3:1
Power : 130 hp (97 kW) @ 5800 rpm & 102 ft·lbf (14.1kg/m) @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
Head Code : P08
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI


ko gw jadi bingung yah om?
mohon pencerahan secerah2nya yah om senior ;)
adeindra wrote:wahahahahaha....dasar anak muda masih pada pacar2an...
udah tua....jadi berasa tua beneran nih gue
gara2 pacaran dari kampus ama die eh...langsung jadi istri, kaga ngerasain yang laen deh.... :(


heheheh.,...jadi curhat

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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by Nawee » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:56 am

meneer wrote:
om iwan,menurut buku kamus sakti om wikipedia :

1. head PM3 :
Also known as D16Z2.
Found in:
1988-1991 Honda Civic Si, CRX Si, Civic Wagon RT4WD
1990-1991 Honda Civic EX Sedan
1988-1995 Honda Civic Shuttle RT4WD (UK/Europe/Asia/AU/NZ)
1989-1996 Rover 216/416 GSi (UK/Europe)
Displacement : 1590 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 90 mm
Compression : 9.1:1
Power : 115 hp (86 kW) @ 5600 rpm & 100 ft·lbf @ 3,800 rpm, redline 7200 rpm (USA)
Note: 1988 engines were 105 hp (78 kW), MY89-91 hp was increased to 108
Valvetrain : SOHC
Fuel Control : OBD-0 four-point PGM-FI
Head Code : PM3
Piston Code : PM6

2.head P08 :
D16Z6
Found in
1991-1992 Honda civic si
1992-1995 Honda Civic EX, EX-V and SI
1992-1995 Honda Civic ESi (European Market)
1993-1995 Honda Del Sol Si (only USDM)
1993-1995 Honda Del Sol ESi (European)
Displacement : 1590 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 90 mm
Compression : 9.2:1
Power : 125 hp (93 kW) @ 6600 rpm & 106 ft·lbf @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
Head Code : P08
ECU Code : P28

atw

D15B
VTEC
Found in:
1991-1999 Honda Civic VTi EG4 (Japanese Market)
1992-1998 Honda CRX VXi EG1 (Japanese Market)
Displacement : 1493 cm³
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
Rod Length : 137 mm
Compression : 9.3:1
Power : 130 hp (97 kW) @ 5800 rpm & 102 ft·lbf (14.1kg/m) @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
Head Code : P08
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI


ko gw jadi bingung yah om?
mohon pencerahan secerah2nya yah om senior ;)
Coba dliat dgn seksama lg Om Farid, PM3 itu bukan Head VTEC...
but head biasa dan wiringnya pun masih OBD-0

Kalo head VTEC P-08 wiringnya dah OBD-1...


Tambahan, adapula Head VTEC P2J bawaan Mesin JDM D15B 3 Stage VTEC dgn wiring yg OBD-2 (Engine yg super Irit tapi kenceng tuk tarikan atasnya)
Mesin yg dah gue beli, tapi ngga jadi swap.... :cry: :cry:

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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by meneer » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:22 pm

Nawee wrote: Coba dliat dgn seksama lg Om Farid, PM3 itu bukan Head VTEC...
but head biasa dan wiringnya pun masih OBD-0

Kalo head VTEC P-08 wiringnya dah OBD-1...


Tambahan, adapula Head VTEC P2J bawaan Mesin JDM D15B 3 Stage VTEC dgn wiring yg OBD-2 (Engine yg super Irit tapi kenceng tuk tarikan atasnya)
Mesin yg dah gue beli, tapi ngga jadi swap.... :cry: :cry:
oooooooh...gitu toh om...
kalo head vtec P2J bawaan Mesin JDM D15B itu bisa dipasang ke mesin std GC yah?
keknya gw interest om bwt swap head duank :)

btw kmaren beli D15B brapa yah om iwan?
nanya duang loh om :mrgreen:
adeindra wrote:wahahahahaha....dasar anak muda masih pada pacar2an...
udah tua....jadi berasa tua beneran nih gue
gara2 pacaran dari kampus ama die eh...langsung jadi istri, kaga ngerasain yang laen deh.... :(


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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by Nawee » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:19 pm

meneer wrote: oooooooh...gitu toh om...
kalo head vtec P2J bawaan Mesin JDM D15B itu bisa dipasang ke mesin std GC yah?
keknya gw interest om bwt swap head duank :)

btw kmaren beli D15B brapa yah om iwan?
nanya duang loh om :mrgreen:
Swap head VTEC bisa bgt di msn stdr GC...
biasana org2 swap Head VTEC itu tuk mencari power yg lebih dr stdr GC.
Nah head VTEC P2J ini tdk untuk mencari tenaga dr RPM bawah but bertahap krn itu dinamakan 3 Stage VTEC so tenagana krg di RPM bwh. Makana org lbh prefer swap pake head VTEC P-08 yg bukaan VTEC-nya
dah maen dr RPM bawah...

Msn D15B VTEC / D15B 3 Stage VTEC+girboks matic komplit hrgna sekitar 6,5jt-7,5jt

bedana D15B VTEC dgn D15B 3 Stage VTEC yaitu:
VTEC solenoid yg D15B VTEC hny satu sdngkan yg 3 Stage VTEC ada 2 solenoid.
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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by badooy » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:56 pm

Nawee wrote: Swap head VTEC bisa bgt di msn stdr GC...
biasana org2 swap Head VTEC itu tuk mencari power yg lebih dr stdr GC.
Nah head VTEC P2J ini tdk untuk mencari tenaga dr RPM bawah but bertahap krn itu dinamakan 3 Stage VTEC so tenagana krg di RPM bwh. Makana org lbh prefer swap pake head VTEC P-08 yg bukaan VTEC-nya
dah maen dr RPM bawah...
ralat dikit.. P08 16 klep maen dr bawah tp blom full bukaannya, dah 4800 trus buka smua.. yg laen, 12 klep dulu dst..

baca disini lengkap.. ntar simpulin ke gw yah.. :D
http://www.teamdelsol.com/technical/techstuff/vtec/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#3-Stage_VTEC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by Nawee » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:25 pm

baduy001 wrote:
ralat dikit.. P08 16 klep maen dr bawah tp blom full bukaannya, dah 4800 trus buka smua.. yg laen, 12 klep dulu dst..

baca disini lengkap.. ntar simpulin ke gw yah.. :D
http://www.teamdelsol.com/technical/techstuff/vtec/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#3-Stage_VTEC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Benul sekali, Itu die sumber inspirasinya...
dapet poin tambhn dr Mr. ZC VTEC
:D :D :D

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Re: anything bout engine swap dan pernik2nya...

Post by meneer » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:01 pm

Nawee wrote:
Swap head VTEC bisa bgt di msn stdr GC...
biasana org2 swap Head VTEC itu tuk mencari power yg lebih dr stdr GC.
Nah head VTEC P2J ini tdk untuk mencari tenaga dr RPM bawah but bertahap krn itu dinamakan 3 Stage VTEC so tenagana krg di RPM bwh. Makana org lbh prefer swap pake head VTEC P-08 yg bukaan VTEC-nya
dah maen dr RPM bawah...

Msn D15B VTEC / D15B 3 Stage VTEC+girboks matic komplit hrgna sekitar 6,5jt-7,5jt

bedana D15B VTEC dgn D15B 3 Stage VTEC yaitu:
VTEC solenoid yg D15B VTEC hny satu sdngkan yg 3 Stage VTEC ada 2 solenoid.
ooooooh...gitu yah om...nuhun atuh kang...nuhun pencerahannya :D







tetep aja masih mikir...mikir....mikir :mrgreen:
adeindra wrote:wahahahahaha....dasar anak muda masih pada pacar2an...
udah tua....jadi berasa tua beneran nih gue
gara2 pacaran dari kampus ama die eh...langsung jadi istri, kaga ngerasain yang laen deh.... :(


heheheh.,...jadi curhat

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